Finding Simplicity in Your Coaching Business (with Milana Leshinsky)
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Benay: [00:00:00] Welcome to another episode of Coach Pep Talk, the podcast for people who run their own coaching businesses. Each week I talk to an expert who shares wisdom that helps us be better coaches and better coaching business owners. This week I’ve got Milana Leshinsky on the line and she is talking to us about the Art of Simplicity in your coaching business. If you’ve been feeling overwhelmed or confused or like you’re working too hard and you’re just not getting anywhere, then this is the interview that you’ve been waiting for. It’s amazing. I’ll see you on the other side.
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Benay: [00:01:21] I am thrilled to introduce today’s guest Milana Leshinsky. Milana created a million dollar coaching and information business empire. She is the creator of Recurring Revenue Revolution, Author of Coaching Millions, the inventor of the Tell Us Summit, co-founder of the JV Insider Circle, and the founder of Simplicity Circle, a training company that focuses on simplicity as a growth strategy. Milana came from the Soviet Ukraine 25 years ago to the United States as a classical musician with zero knowledge of the business world. And she built her million dollar coaching business from home part time while raising her two kids. In her spare time, she takes ballroom dance lessons and writes music. This is an amazing interview with Milana. She’s very open and sharing and generous with all of her wisdom and the journey she’s been on since she started her coaching business and has recently transitioned into this concept of simplicity. I hope you enjoy the show.
Benay: [00:02:29] Hello Milana and welcome to the show.
Milana Leshinsky: [00:02:32] Well, thank you Benay, it’s great to be here. I’m excited to talk to you.
Benay: [00:02:35] I am super excited to talk to you too. I’ve been following you. I don’t know if it was since 2009 or…you ran this coaching Tell Us Summit and I dialed in from Canberra and I was so excited to be on the call with all these coaches from all over the world listening to their predictions for the industry. Do you remember those days?
Milana Leshinsky: [00:02:52] I actually do. It was 2010 it was called Coaching Boom.
Benay: [00:02:57] It was awesome, it was really insightful and I was like, “Wow!”
Milana Leshinsky: [00:02:59] I loved it too.
Benay: [00:02:59] So It’s been it’s been a while. I think both of us have been on extreme journeys in that time which is really exciting and I’m hoping that in this interview we can get into some of the crux of that and shared the wisdom you’ve learnt with my listeners who are predominantly coaches. Okay so what do you see as the biggest problem right now in the space for coaches and the coaching industry?
Milana Leshinsky: [00:03:26] I think the biggest challenge is that coaching has been around for over two decades. Like I’m going to use the words like mass production, right where coaches have been trained by dozens of coach training schools and then there are people who just woke up one day and said I want to be a coach and got no training and just got into that. And then all these internet marketers who um, in addition to selling their information products, decided to upsell other services like coaching and consulting so it kind of got muddled. And so the challenge I see is that there is a dilution of coaches or people who call themselves coaches. There’s a whole lot of options for people to get coaching, whether they realize its professional or not doesn’t matter. What matters is if there is demand there is going to be supply. And the more demand the more supply there will show up. And the biggest challenge is really how do you stand out? How do you stand out when everybody calls themselves a coach? How do you stand out when even professional coaches are… they sound, they do sound a lot alike. I work with coaches since 2002/2003 and I just remember thinking of it back then. Wait, wait a minute every website says the same thing: What’s the difference between coaching and consulting? What does a life coach do? What does it look like and how we’re going to work together? It’s almost as if every coach was given a template by which to market themselves. And the only thing that has changed since then is that the number of methods to get your message out has, I don’t know there is a word for ten times more, it’s not quadruple, it’s not quintuplet it’s something else. But there is just such an enormous number of ways to get your message out there that this unprecedented overwhelm is what I see in the market right now especially in the coaching industry.
Benay: [00:34:19] Yeah, well I’d love to come back to just how do you stand out? Because probably some coaches who are listening to this are like, oh okay I want to be able to stand out. How do I do that? Is there a simple answer?
Milana Leshinsky: [00:34:23] There is a simple answer actually I was thinking a lot about that. You know I recently walked away from the business myself. From a business that I ran for the last three years with a business partner and I wanted to start a new one. I’ve always known that I’m kind of an entrepreneur, there is no job for me that would be satisfying enough. So as I walked away from the business last year, I took a few months of a break or sabbatical and I started looking for my next idea, or I should say for my next big idea. And what happened was I got overwhelmed and I started thinking about so how do I get… How do I stand out? How do I look and sound unique and different from other people who are seemingly selling similar advice, except I am very different? How do I make people see that? Because it’s very easy to sense the difference once people hire you and they work with you, they get your personality and suddenly you become their secret weapon. Their secret hidden weapon. But until that point, until they work with you and experience you, they can’t tell the difference. So the simple answer actually is starting your own community. Creating your own community, and it could be as simple as a Facebook group, which people are really big on right now, in a way that positions you as somebody who stands for something. So two components really, is you want to stand for something, or have a stance, a strong opinion, something you believe in, and then start a Facebook group or some kind of an online community or maybe even off line. There’s a lot of that. The whole idea of a mastermind locally that people start, but it needs to be based around a message or an idea, like what I started is a simplicity entrepreneurship community on Facebook and anybody who resonates with the idea of simplicity entrepreneurship, they join. It’s free and it’s exciting because they get to be surrounded by other people who are simplicity minded. So you want to create your own, I’m going to use the word bubble, your own bubble where you can nurture people and grow your community, share your ideas, get feedback, innovate, and grow with them. That’s kind of how I see it, because it’s very easy to get lost online right now. Very easy. Your just like, even before I started my Facebook community Benay, I felt a little isolated and confused. The moment I launched my community on Facebook suddenly I felt like, oh I have an audience. I have people who care about my message. People that I can ask for feedback.
Benay: [00:36:26] We’re in this together.
Milana Leshinsky: [00:36:26] We’re in this together, exactly. And hopefully they will connect to me and my message enough that when I do offer something like a paid program, they’ll be excited to join me and take it to the next level.
Benay: [00:36:31] So the community, is this a paid thing, is it a free thing? Does it matter?
Milana Leshinsky: [00:36:32] Well I do have a plan to eventually have a paid community but right now I am more focused on building my free one. The company that I had before, and that I walked away from, that was a paid community. The challenge for me was that it required too much hassle. The company got so complex. There were so many people working in it. So many moving pieces and departments and objectives and ideas. It just got so complex that I literally would wake up and I wouldn’t want to go out or get out of bed. I just didn’t want to deal with it. Right? So that’s why simplicity is so attractive to me today. It’s like keep your business simple and simplicity, you know, I’m happy to talk more about that but just keep in mind simplicity is very subjective. What is simple to one person is complex to another. Like I love doing product launches, I can do it in my sleep. I love designing events and workshops. I can have a ton of fun with it, it is simple and creative from me, but ask me to do networking or speak from stage or run a team… Those things are not quite as enjoyable or simple to me, so the further you get away from your simplicity zone the more complex your business becomes, the more challenges you’ll have. The more hustle you have to give.
Benay: [00:37:39] That’s really interesting because something I’ve been looking at in my own business is working within your space of genius and it sounds very similar. Could a space of genius be your simplicity zone?
Milana Leshinsky: [00:37:46] Absolutely. Some people call it your genius zone, your brilliant zone. The reason I call it simplicity zone is because when you stay in your simplicity zone, things are simple to you and you get results. It’s not just that you get results because you have skills in that area, but it’s specifically because it’s so natural to you. It’s your super skills, it’s your natural ability, and you enjoy it. So it’s all that combined into simplicity zone and then business becomes like second nature to you and that’s your goal. That’s what I love about simplicity entrepreneurship, is when you focus your business when you design it around your simplicity zone. Like if you could stay in your simplisity zone 80 to 90 percent of the time, it’ll feel, like the growth will feel very organic and natural and not forced, pushed or the you know the hustle is not going to be there. It is just going to feel different.
Benay: [00:38:30] Wow and how do you how do you find your simplicity zone?
Milana Leshinsky: [00:38:32] Well there’s a lot of ways to do that. So you know the first thing that you want to look at is where have you gotten most results over the course of your career, over the course of running your business. Like where do you feel Like that’s where you really…every time you focus on improving your skills it actually brings you results like an example I like to give is, with Tell Us seminars and webinars, the very first one I did I had one person and then I learned a little bit more about how to feel about it all. And then I got 20 people and then I got seven sales from a group of 100 people, and I started learning more and more and more and more. And the more I learned and implemented- the better my results got. So my simplicity zone includes designing and delivering Tell Us seminars and webinars. The more I was doing them the better I was getting. And at the same time I was, I spent the last, I don’t know… uh 2007… So maybe like the last eight years trying to learn and improve how to speak onstage and sell. Make an offer on stage. And I have only improved a little bit and it would always end up in a migraine.
Benay: [00:39:21] Okay so you can be can be really afraid and not necessarily a genius at first but you get rapid results once you start learning the processes. Is that?
Milana Leshinsky: [00:39:28] Exactly right and it continues to improve. Yeah absolutely. And the other thing you can ask yourself where do you find yourself pushing or working hard to get results. Because that is the thing that you should stop doing and in me or just reciting what some people would say you know that’s what you need to learn.
Benay: [00:39:42] What an interesting model, some people would say, you know, that’s what you need to learn.
Milana Leshinsky: [00:39:42] Yeah. So that’s why I’m so glad you brought that up because I’m sure you’ll never get outside of your comfort zone. No that’s not it. I’m actually part of a Facebook live challenge right now. I’ve been posting Facebook live on a daily basis. Today is day four, but I’m doing it and I’m pushing myself to do that because I get very nervous in front of camera. Which is funny because nobody can ever tell. Somebody asked me after my first event, Milana where did you get your speaker training? And I always choked when they asked me that question because I was so nervous that I felt sick to my stomach. But somehow it didn’t become visible to people.
Benay: [00:40:10] You always look amazing on camera I think. Very natural.
Milana Leshinsky: [00:40:12] Well Thank You. Well so yeah. So the idea is that you push yourself outside of your comfort zone, but in the direction that you should be growing. You should be amplifying the right areas of your business. Like I could certainly be trying to master networking and I could continue to work on myself to improve the speak-to-sell model, but it hasn’t worked so far and it makes me very drained and feel inadequate, feel tired, and just a lot of self-doubt. And so I look at it and I think, why am I doing this to myself? Aren’t I in business because I wanted more freedom, independence, and to have a great lifestyle business? Then why my torturing myself? Shouldn’t I instead be focusing on the things that I truly enjoy that are in my simplicity zone, because those are the things that also bring me the most income. So I am stretching myself outside of my comfort zone right now with doing Facebook life, because I know that once I master it, or I shouldn’t say master, but like once when I can get over my nerves I will get better at it, and people will see me more, and I will enjoy myself more. So I feel drawn to it. I think that, this is where one of the biggest way to find out what you should focus on is literally like, I’m not a woo woo person but, put your hand on your heart and ask yourself what feels simple and obvious as the strategy that you feel drawn to. Like I feel really drawn and excited even about doing Facebook Live. I’m not sure why, but there is something about it that draws me to it and that is a very good sign that you should move into that direction. You should amplify it in your business. Just like I amplify my skills in Tell us classes and webinars and got to a point where I would deliver a webinar and I would have a six figure result, right? So right now I’m feeling very much drawn to Facebook and Facebook Live, even though I resisted for a long time. There is something about it that draws me to it now.
Benay: [00:41:53] That’s an interesting point and so it sounds like there could be phases for you specifically too, to use different tools at different stages as you as you evolve?
Milana Leshinsky: [00:42:01] Of Yes. So what I’d like to say I’m glad that you call it stages or phases. Complexity today can become simplicity tomorrow for many different reasons. Well because so…maybe I have worked on my nervousness and my anxiety for the last year and I’m more comfortable on camera now. So suddenly it doesn’t feel as draining to me and it feels exciting. Or maybe I improved my copywriting skills. So now writing a video script doesn’t feel as complex. Suddenly I feel connected to that idea. But I do want to go back to the idea that, yes you can master any skill, but there are skills that are naturally given to us. Somehow we have that, it’s in us. And then there are others that we work on and we work hard to get to that point. So what I love talking about is the idea of natural tendency. If left to your own devices why would you naturally tend to do. I know that some people naturally tend to do to just connect. “Oh you should meet this person, that person. Oh you have this problem? Oh I know somebody who can help you.” They just naturally do that. I don’t. People and resources just don’t enter my mind when I talk to somebody. It’s just not my natural tendency. What I do naturally do when left to my own devices is I find myself organizing information into teachable formulas and systems and that is why I get the highest compliments on anything that I create as a training. Or if I explain something to somebody it’ll be the last explanation they’ll ever need, because I naturally tend to seek simplicity and clarity around any concept. So what are your natural tendencies? What are you doing already that you could put to use in your business? That’s kind of like how a business becomes your second nature.
Benay: [00:43:39] That’s just funny that I’m talking to you…probably not actually at all because that’s exactly the dilemma or the question I’ve been asking myself. My area…I’m putting in the words of area of genius, but my simplicity zone and how can I do more of that in my business with more ease?
Milana Leshinsky: [00:43:50] Yeah, the cool thing is that we’ve been trained to believe that to achieve success you need to hustle. You need to work hard. And I have worked hard, on many areas in my business and in my life. You know, I’m a classically trained musician, so I was trained mentally that in order to achieve mastery in performance you need to work on it. But here’s a good example, you can be working on a music piece using the wrong posture in your hands and you will actually damage your wrist or you will do something in a way that slows you down and you cannot break the barrier of speed in a certain passage in music because you’re playing it wrong. As soon as an expert you know helps you set it correctly, like set it upright. Then suddenly you’re doing it right and it goes faster and you’re able to move forward, right? it’s almost like oh you know a coach, if you are swimming and if you’re not using your body correctly you’ll always be slower than you could be if your using your body right. So that’s all it means, is that you as your brain, used your skills, use your natural talents correctly so that you could experience the fastest results. That’s why a simple business is always going to be easier to grow than a complex one, because you remove all the unnecessary complexity. You stop listening to other people who are tell you, oh you should do this and you should do that. And you’re just kind of tuning in to yourself and you decide this is what I feel drawn to, this is what feels exciting to me. Because you know I came into the business without any experience and so I had to follow my intuition. It felt right. I felt drawn to it. So I was using a lot of my like how I felt about things and if it felt exciting, that energy would propel me forward. And if I didn’t feel excited then it doesn’t matter what… It didn’t matter what strategy I would use and how much I worked, I would struggle to move forward and the energy of excitement comes when you’re leveraging your natural abilities or super skills right? One of the things I do in my simplicity program with my clients is I give them a tool that tells them what kind of personality they have as a business owner. So there is four that they can get either teacher, Builder, connector, or champion depending on your business personality style it gives you a starting point. So I’m very high on builder and that’s why building a Facebook group was exciting to me, but participating in other Facebook groups was draining because I wasn’t really building anything. I’m not a connector, so connecting with people on Facebook group didn’t feel right to me.
Milana Leshinsky: [00:46:03] So like these distinctions between the different types of business owners guides you in the right direction.
Benay: [00:46:10] What were the for again builder, teacher, connector, and…
Milana Leshinsky: [00:46:12] Builder, Teacher, Connector and champion.
Benay: [00:46:13] Champion. I love it. Can you just give us a quick recap of each one like the one sentence version?
Milana Leshinsky: [00:46:19] Sure, let me actually, I am going to give you that absolutely… One second…So Like I’m a builder so that is top of mind for me builders are drawn to creating and sharing tools and ideas. And the best way for builders to attract and nurture prospects and to turn them into clients is by sharing cool stuff. Like if I look over the course of my 16 years in business I’ve always created stuff. I’ve always built and shared. I invented Tell Us summit. I built a membership community for JV partners I built different ideas that… I built brands, you know like everything to me is about building and sharing. Creating cool tools. Even the fact that I developed the unique marketing personality assessment as part of my program that is me being a builder. I just naturally tend to organize information into these kind of frameworks. Then teacher, if that is your top personality then everything you do to generate leads, to nurture your contacts, to close sales, to run a product launch, social media, everything you do you must focus on sharing useful information and educate your audience. And so teachers, are a lot of teachers in the coaching industry, teacher personalities.
Benay: [00:47:17] Mmm, Yep.
Milana Leshinsky: [00:47:17] And they get very frustrated when they have to… When they are told to participate on social media because they think that social media is about connecting. As soon as they see that, oh wait a minute, I am a teacher, which means I need to be sharing information, sharing tips. Educating people on Facebook, versus trying to connect and focus on connecting. They suddenly, the pressure is released and relieved right? If you are a connector, well lucky you Because I’m not. I literally scored zero on connector.
Benay: [00:47:46] I have got to take this test Milana.
Milana Leshinsky: [00:47:47] Well this is your top marketing personality, connecting with people must be present in some shape or form in every marketing activity that you choose to do because that’s how you communicate your value. From attracting to enrolling clients. And then a champion personality, basically you’re motivated by inspiring potential clients. That is your driver, inspiring people, and you can do that through speaking, through doing live video, through storytelling. Which is funny because I score very low on Champion and yet I loved doing Facebook Live. So I was confused about that at first and then what I realized is that, what I do in my Facebook Live, I don’t focus on inspiration. What I’m actually doing is I’m sharing ideas…
Benay: [00:48:22] Mm yeah, that happen inspire.
Milana Leshinsky: [00:48:22] And that happens to inspire, some people to get inspired by that. To me the way my brain works, is I see it as, oh let me share the insight that I had today about something I saw about a business model that can be simple yet profitable. Bam, I’m on Facebook alive and I’m sharing that.
Benay: [00:48:34] Okay. Okay now, can we just do a quick recap: So that the Builder is always creating something, the Teacher is always focusing on educating their audience, the Connector, they’re connecting people to each other?
Milana Leshinsky: [00:48:43] They’re connecting people to each other, they’re connecting people to resources. They are great one-on-one connecters and also in small groups. Some people who are more on the extroverted side connectors they also enjoy networking events. Not everybody does. I’ve actually done a lot of testing on this as a business assessment tool and what I’ve found is that some connectors said I hate networking and I had to dig deeper to realize that they are actually introverted and they like making meaningful connections but not necessarily going to large networking events.
Benay: [00:49:08] So special ones, yeah. Okay I got that. Okay and then the champion focuses on inspiring people.
Milana Leshinsky: [00:49:11] Yeah.
Benay: [00:49:11] So What would be an example of that. Say, if you can’t talk about a tool that inspires somebody you’re talking about a concept, a philosophy? What’s the difference?
Milana Leshinsky: [00:49:16] Um. Say it again, sorry.
Benay: [00:49:16] What would be a good example of the way that a champion inspires people? How do they do that? What’s the…
Milana Leshinsky: [00:49:21] Oh they tell stories, they tell stories and they position themselves as a star, as a guru. So that’s more on the extroverted side and then on the introverted side, Champions are phenomenal coaches because they inspire one-on-one. They really care about their clients right? I’ve seen it like both spectrum, both sides of the spectrum. Champions can be like Tony Robbins is clearly champion a champion. right?
Benay: [00:49:43] He’s a classic.
Milana Leshinsky: [00:49:43] Yes there is always a supporting personality and I wish I could give him this assessment to find out if he is a great teacher, or a builder, or a connector. And some people actually tell me, Milana, I am all four.
Benay: [00:49:52] I was going to ask that question. Can you have a little bit of all of them?
Milana Leshinsky: [00:49:54] So yes, you can, but there will always be some kind of a dominant personality in you.
Benay: [00:49:58] Ok.
Milana Leshinsky: [00:49:58] And the more you feel like you are all for the more confused you will be about your marketing and business and growing your business. The purpose of this assessment, I’m actually going to give your link. I’m going to give you a secret link, if you go to, Yes well it’s uniquemarketingpersonalityquiz. Actually sorry, let me jus… I haven’t given it to a lot of people… Okay its uniquemarketingpersonality.com You can think that quiz right there. It gives you, very briefly an explanation of each one, but what I do in my program is we go deeper into designing your marketing and sales funnel based on your personality. Because it can be very overwhelming, like what tools do I use, where do I focus my attention? But once you know.
Benay: [00:50:25] That just sounds like a godsend to the coaching community, so that’s good. I have a feeling you’re going to get some takers on that one.
Milana Leshinsky: [00:50:29] I think this is a really great tool. I mean I was confused in terms of how to coach, how to work with people. How to advise them you know, I needed a starting point. So this is such a perfect starting point for me to give to people who enter my program. Like okay I want to see which one you are so I could advise you properly. Otherwise we’re just going to spin the wheels for ever until we find what works for you and maybe it’s not even the right one. This way you tell me which one you resonate with more.
Benay: [00:50:55] Yeah I know that we’re on a tight schedule today with you Milana. I really appreciate you taking the time out, but I do want to know, for the people who don’t know your story is there ah, what is it called… The abridged version of just how you actually came up to this whole simplicity concept in the first place.
Milana Leshinsky: [00:51:10] Yeah totally. Well I have my blog. If you go to simplicitycircle.com you’ll see my blog. There’s a few posts that I made as soon as I left the other business. And I was kind of you know, processing my departure from a million-dollar business, totally feeling confused about that. And then if you got inspired by the idea of simplicity entrepreneurship I would invite you to join my group on Facebook, it’s a free community. I would invite you to take the simplicity quiz that tells you how much complexity you have in your business right now, And the link for that is simplicitycircle.com/getstarted.
Benay: [00:51:38] And for the coaches out there who you know, are feeling really overwhelmed and they love this idea of tapping into their genius or their simplicity zone. What parting advice would you like to leave with them today? If They just take away one thing from listening to this podcast today.
Milana Leshinsky: [00:51:54] You know when you’re faced with a lot of different options and advice, I find that the best strategy is to ask yourself what do I want to do. What do I want to do? And the key is to be honest in your response, not trying to please anyone else because any strategy will work. That’s the cool thing about simplicity. Any strategy you use will work, I promise you. As long as it’s something that you feel drawn to. Let go of what others may think of your decision, because the moment you answer truthfully, the answer will reveal itself and it will come with clarity, confidence, excitement, and obviousness. And once you have the answer in front of you, Go for it! You know, I will tell you that my last coach from last year, when I told her that I want to do this simplicity thing, she said Milana, don’t do it, it will confuse people. And she suggested that I go into a different direction that I wasn’t resonating with and surely I was paying my coach money every month and I should have listened right, because I hated when people pay you money and then argue with me you know. You don’t want a client that’s not coachable, but for whatever reason as I was working with her I evolved. I changed. I was working with her for a year. And as time went by, I started noticing that are not connecting with the old things that I used to be connected to. Like before I would be all about how to make a million dollars, how to grow a million-dollar business you know. How to identify stars for your team and build a million-dollar team. All of that was suddenly …I don’t even know how to say that… like suddenly my whole being started pushing that away and I was starting to see that I don’t want to hustle. I don’t want to build a million-dollar business for the sake of building a million-dollar business. I think I can build an awesome, profitable, high income business but I want to do what I want to do. I want to do what attracts me. What makes me feel drawn to it? So I would say don’t worry about what others think. Ask yourself what you want to do and go with that. But really go for it.
Benay: [00:53:35] It sounds like you’re really tapping into your own energy and trusting your intuition which is just amazing. I’m seeing this happen all over the place in the industry right now, especially among females and I’m just blown away by this undercurrent, this waves, this movement that just seems to be happening in all these gurus I’m following. I love it.
Milana Leshinsky: [00:53:50] It’s really interesting, I know you ask me we spoke a little bit earlier about the feminine energy and I will tell you that one man who has known me for a few years emailed me recently and said Milana it really feels like you are tapping into your feminine energy, that you have let go the masculine.
Benay: [00:54:04] I knew it, I knew it.
Milana Leshinsky: [00:54:05] The drive and push and all of that and you were now coming to your business with more feminine energy. Now personally I never connected with the idea of feminine energy. It felt too soft for me because I am still in my heart A hard core business woman, but I don’t want to work hard.
Benay: [00:54:17] That’s what they’re all saying. They’re all hardcore. They’re all making millions of dollars and they’re all saying I’ve had enough. There’s gotta be another way.
Milana Leshinsky: [00:54:23] Oh I can’t tell you how many people I’ve talked to once I walked away from my business. People have contacted me and I started reaching out to some of my friends and they were struggling in confidence. They couldn’t share because they needed to maintain their image. It’s very scary to share when your making you know two million dollars a year. It’s very scary to share with other people publicly that you are actually feeling empty.
Benay: [00:54:43] Yeah.
Milana Leshinsky: [00:54:43] And I was finally able to see that once they walked away from my million-dollar business was like wow is this all there is? If that is all there is I really don’t when I wake up today, or tomorrow. I need something else. I need to have more fun and actually during my sabbatical wrote for the first time I wrote my music again in a long time. So actually if you go to Milana dot, uh yeah milana.com/blog you’ll see the only piece I have recorded so far professionally, my music, so…
Benay: [00:55:05] I did listen to that one you’ve when you posted, I was like, Go Milana! Great! Beautiful!
Milana Leshinsky: [00:55:06] You know you had a chance all along.
Benay: [00:55:08] Thank you so much for stepping out and just being true to you and being this role model for this new wave, especially a female entrepreneur. I think it may be impacting males out there too, but I’m a little bit biased. I’m really interested in the females at this juncture in my career, my life. I just wanted to thank you so much and honor you and um yeah. Welcome to the sisterhood it’s delightful to have you among us.
Milana Leshinsky: [00:55:29] Thanks so much Benay for having me.